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Don
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Apr-19-04, 07:50 AM (EST)
 
"Trig/Density Questions"
 
   After searching this site (to no avail), does there exist a way to show "the derivative of the sine is the cosine" that doesn't rely on already knowing the derivative of the sine? Using the Taylor expansion it's easy, but that relies on the derivative...

Also, I'm familiar with the density theorems for the real numbers (between any two distinct rational/irrational numbers there exists an irrational/rational number), but can one say that adjacent to any rational/irrational number are two irrational/rational numbers? Or does the notion of adjacency not exist on the real line?


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Apr-20-04, 07:57 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Trig/Density Questions"
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   >After searching this site (to no avail), does there exist a
>way to show "the derivative of the sine is the cosine" that
>doesn't rely on already knowing the derivative of the sine?
>Using the Taylor expansion it's easy, but that relies on the
>derivative...

There is a little something that at

https://www.cut-the-knot.org/Curriculum/Calculus/SineCosine.shtml

that my suggest an alternative proof. A rather standard proof by definition of the derivative uses only


  1. The sine of sum formula (https://www.cut-the-knot.org/proofs/sine_cosine.shtml)
  2. The continuity of sine and cosine
  3. The limit of sin(x)/x.

>
>Also, I'm familiar with the density theorems for the real
>numbers (between any two distinct rational/irrational
>numbers there exists an irrational/rational number), but can
>one say that adjacent to any rational/irrational number are
>two irrational/rational numbers? Or does the notion of
>adjacency not exist on the real line?

No, it does not.

https://www.cut-the-knot.org/do_you_know/numbers.shtml


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