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alan
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May-08-06, 01:12 PM (EST)
 
"polynomial coefficients"
 
   I was trying to read through this: https://www.math.purdue.edu/pow/spring2006/pdf/solution14.pdf and I don't understand where some of the equalities are coming from. I know what the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality is, but I don't understand where the first inequality in that proof comes from. Are the roots of the polynomial components of a vector that fulfills the inequality? I can't quite see how that would work. I also did not know that the sum of squares and square of sum of polynomial roots were related to the coefficients in any meaningful way. Can anyone explain these, or point me in the right direction? Thanks.


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May-08-06, 06:50 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: polynomial coefficients"
In response to message #0
 
   >I know what the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality is,
>but I don't understand where the first inequality in that
>proof comes from. Are the roots of the polynomial components
>of a vector that fulfills the inequality?
Almost: Take two vectors; one with components equal to the roots of the polynomial and the other with all components equal to one. Applying the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality to these two vectors gives this inequality.

>I also did not know that the sum of
>squares and square of sum of polynomial roots were related
>to the coefficients in any meaningful way.
They are, and this link is the crux of the proof. The link is the elementary symmetric polynomials. Before I can explain this I shall need to set up some notation. For any term t in variables x_1, x_2, ... x_n,
I shall use ssum(t) to mean the sum of all terms which may be obtained from t by permuting the variables. So for example, ssum((x_1)^2) = (x_1)^2 + (x_2)^2 + ... + (x_n)^2.

We know that P(x) has the form a (x - x_1)(x- x_2)...(x - x_n). Multiplying out, we obtain b = a ssum(x_1), c = a ssum(x_1*x_2). The other coefficients are similarly expressed in terms of polynomials in the x_i; the elementary symmetric polynomials.

Now (ssum(x_1))^2 = ssum((x_1)^2) + 2 ssum(x_1 x_2), so ssum((x_1)^2) = (ssum(x_1))^2 - 2 ssum(x_1 x_2) = (b/a)^2 - c/a = (b^2 - 2ac)/a^2, as stated in the solution you ask about.

Thankyou

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alan
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May-09-06, 10:35 PM (EST)
 
2. "RE: polynomial coefficients"
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   That makes perfect sense, thank you.


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