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Subject: "Another "t-dious" question from Mr Irrational"     Previous Topic | Next Topic
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Neil_Parker
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May-03-07, 06:44 AM (EST)
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"Another "t-dious" question from Mr Irrational"
 
   To prove sqrt<(1-t^2)/(1+t^2)> is irrational for rational t.
0<t<1.

We would need:

1 - t^2 = r^2 Eqn 1 => rational triplet {x,y,r} = {r,t,1}
1 + t^2 = q^2 Eqn 2 => rational triplet {x,y,r} = {1,t,q}

Substituting for t^2 in Eqn 2:

1 + (1 - r^2) = q^2
2 - r^2 = q^2 => IRRATIONAL triplet {x,y,r} = {r;q;sqrt2}

Contradiction. Therefore the two rational triplets assumed in Eqn 1 and Eqn 2 are impossible. And so sqrt<(1-t^2)/(1+t^2)> is irrational for rational t. (0<t<1)

Does this work ?

Neil


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May-03-07, 09:15 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Another "t-dious" question from Mr Irrational"
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   First of all, I had a very difficult time understanding your notations. Second of all, you discard the possibility that the first two equations have an irrational solutions, whereas the expression in question is rational.

I disagree with

> We would need.


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