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Mar-22-06, 08:16 AM (EST)
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"Pythagorean triples and recurrence relations"
 
   The values of c in a^2 + b^2 = c^2 where |b - a| = 1 and gcd(a,b)=1 are generated from this recurrence relation:

c(1)=5, c(2)=29, c(n) = 6*c(n-1) - c(n-2)

( see https://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A001653 )

What I find interesting is that apparently all Pythagorean triples can be generated with recurrence relations. I am far from being a mathematician, and so I cannot prove any of this.

It is sufficient to look at primitive triples where gcd(a,b)=1.
The possible values of the difference |b - a| in primitive triples are 1,7,17,23,31,... see https://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A058529 .

When |b-a| = 7, we have :

c(1)=13, c(2)=17, c(3)=73, c(4)=97, c(n) = 6*c(n-2) - c(n-4)

The values of a will be generated by:

a(1)=5, a(2)=8, a(3)=48, a(4)=65, a(n) = 6*a(n-2) - a(n-4) + 14


When |b-a| = 17, we have :

c(1)=25, c(2)=53, c(3)=137, c(4)=305, c(n) = 6*c(n-2) - c(n-4)
a(1)=7, a(2)=28, a(3)=88, a(4)=207, a(n) = 6*a(n-2) - a(n-4) + 34

When |b-a| = 23, we have :

c(1)=37, c(2)=65, c(3)=205, c(4)=373, c(n) = 6*c(n-2) - c(n-4)
a(1)=12, a(2)=33, a(3)=133, a(4)=252, a(n) = 6*a(n-2) - a(n-4) + 46

and so on...

Does anyone know of an explanation please?

Regards
Andras Erszegi


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Ramsey2879
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Mar-24-06, 08:40 PM (EST)
 
1. "RE: Pythagorean triples and recurrence relations"
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   It follows from the relation 8(a(n))^2 - (a(n+1)-3*a(n))^2 = a constant for recursive series of the form a(n) = 6a(n-1)-a(n-2) that I found. If you note that if any two adjacent terms of the Pell-like series {a,b,2b+a,5b+2a, …} (a(n) = 2*a(n-1) + a(n-2) ) are selected as y and x of the Pathagorean triples: x^2 + y^2, x^2-y^2, and 2xy then the value for (x^2 – y^2 – 2xy)^2 is a constant. Moreover, You will find that 8(a^2 + b^2)^2 – (((2b+a)^2+ b^2) – 3(a^2+b^2))^2 = 4(b^2 - a^2 – 2ab)^2. Thus this series is of the form a(n) = 6a(n-1)-a(n-2) .


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