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K. Arthur
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Jul-31-05, 02:53 PM (EST)
 
"prime gaps"
 
   A005250 in NJAS' encyclopedia lists the increasing gaps betwen primes. There is another interesting sequence, A063095, which is defined as

a(n) = max{ p(j+1) - p(j); j = 1,...,n } where p(j) is the jth prime,
ie the largest difference between two consecutive primes in the sequence of the first n primes.

Is there any known method to estimate the values of this function, without having to calculate it term by term? Even an approximation would be quite useful.


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  RE: prime gaps mr_homm Jul-31-05 1
     RE: prime gaps K.Arthur Aug-01-05 2
         RE: prime gaps mr_homm Aug-01-05 3
             RE: prime gaps K.Arthur Aug-02-05 4
                 RE: prime gaps alexb Aug-02-05 5
                 RE: prime gaps mr_homm Aug-02-05 6

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mr_homm
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Jul-31-05, 07:34 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: prime gaps"
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>Is there any known method to estimate the values of this
>function, without having to calculate it term by term? Even
>an approximation would be quite useful.

Well, there is a theorem about the existence of gaps between primes. Simply, if x = 2*3*5*7*11*...*p, then x+1 and x-1 might be prime, but x+2, ..., x+p and x-p, ..., x-2 are not prime. So there is a gap of length at least p-1 near x. Therefore, a(n)>p-1, where n is the number of primes < x. This is a really weak result. Does this help at all?

--Stuart Anderson


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K.Arthur
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Aug-01-05, 01:39 PM (EST)
 
2. "RE: prime gaps"
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   It'says something about the minimum of the largest gap within a range, but nothing about the maximum. Is it right to say that the Goldbach conjecture ( https://mathworld.wolfram.com/GoldbachConjecture.html ) cannot be proved if a stronger theorem cannot be found? What I mean is this:
If u is a prime <= p, then p + u <= 2p.
If v is a prime <= 2p + 1, then 2p + 1 + v >= 2p + 3.
Therefore, if the gap following prime p is larger than p, then 2p+2 cannot be expressed as the sum of two primes.
If that is right then, if the Goldbach conjecture is right, the following statement should also hold:

The gap following prime p is not larger than p.

Is this just another conjecture, or can it be (or has it been) proved?


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mr_homm
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Aug-01-05, 03:43 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: prime gaps"
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   >The gap following prime p is not larger than p.
>
>Is this just another conjecture, or can it be (or has it
>been) proved?

Actually, this one is pretty obvious if you think about it from a very elementary point of view. 2p is obviously not prime, and lies a distance p above prime p. Hence the gap after p cannot exceed p.

--Stuart Anderson


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K.Arthur
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Aug-02-05, 02:50 PM (EST)
 
4. "RE: prime gaps"
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   I do not understand why there has to be another prime between p and 2p.


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alexb
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Aug-02-05, 02:52 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: prime gaps"
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   Does not Bertrand's postulate answer this question

https://mathworld.wolfram.com/BertrandsPostulate.html

?


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mr_homm
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Aug-02-05, 08:00 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: prime gaps"
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   >I do not understand why there has to be another prime
>between p and 2p.

Sorry, I completely misread what you wanted. What alexb says in post #5 in this thread is what you want.

--Stuart Anderson


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