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bitrak
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Jul-17-05, 02:03 PM (EST)
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"Real or complex number"
 
   What's i^i=? ; i=sqrt(-1)


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
Real or complex number bitrak Jul-17-05 TOP
  RE: Real or complex number alexb Jul-17-05 1
     RE: Real or complex number bitrak Jul-17-05 2
         RE: Real or complex number alexb Jul-17-05 3
             RE: Real or complex number JJ Jul-18-05 4
                 RE: Real or complex number bitrak Jul-18-05 5
                     RE: Real or complex number alexb Jul-18-05 6
  RE: Real or complex number kfom Jul-06-06 7
     RE: Real or complex number JJ Jul-07-06 8
         RE: Real or complex number g Jul-08-06 9
             RE: Real or complex number JJ Jul-09-06 10
  RE: Real or complex number JJ Jul-09-06 11

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alexb
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Jul-17-05, 02:05 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   >What's i^i=? ;

Just in a second, but first please tell us what do you mean by

>i=sqrt(-1)

What does sqrt(-1) mean in your view?


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bitrak
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Jul-17-05, 03:38 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   Let i^2=-1 .Calculate i^i=?


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alexb
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Jul-17-05, 03:40 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   Please have a look at

https://www.cut-the-knot.org/do_you_know/complex.shtml


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JJ
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Jul-18-05, 07:13 AM (EST)
 
4. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   i = exp(i*pi/2)
i^i = exp(i*(i*pi/2)) = exp(-pi/2)


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5. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   JJ you want to say that i^i have one real solution?


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6. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   >JJ you want to say that i^i have one real solution?

This question I can't answer. However, do please check the link I gave earlier. There is a good discussion of this issue.


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kfom
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Jul-06-06, 08:19 PM (EST)
 
7. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   I know this sounds really bizarre... I read some book a long time ago, something like "The Story of sqrt(-1)" anyway, all I can remember is the first digit:
i^i = 0.2...
It's real!
It's mindblowing!


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JJ
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Jul-07-06, 07:34 AM (EST)
 
8. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   This isn't surprising at all. Operations and/or functions involving complex numbers often leads to real number.
For example, the most simplest cases are :
i*i = -1
i^i = exp(-pi/2)
ln(i)=pi/2
cos(i)=cosh(1)
cosh(i)=cos(1)


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Jul-08-06, 11:08 PM (EST)
 
9. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   how would you start to compute i^i? t seemes so vague...


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Jul-09-06, 05:47 AM (EST)
 
10. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   First : computation of real and imaginary parts of the logarithm of a complex number
ln(a+i.b)=x+i.y hence
a+i.b = exp(x+i.y) = exp(x).exp(i.y) = exp(x).(cos(y)+i.sin(y))
a = exp(x).cos(y) and b = exp(x).sin(y)
a^2 + b^2 = exp(2x) and b/a = tan(y)
x = (1/2)ln(a^2 +b^2)
y = atan(b/a)
Case of a=0, b=1 : x=0 and y=pi/2
hence : ln(i) = i.pi/2
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Second : computation of i^i
c^p = exp(p.ln(c)) hence i^i = exp(i.ln(i))
ln(i)=i.pi/2 hence i^i = exp(i.(i.pi/2))
i^i = exp((i^2)pi/2) = exp((-1)pi/2)
i^i = exp(-pi/2)


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Jul-09-06, 05:47 AM (EST)
 
11. "RE: Real or complex number"
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   Why the signs "plus" aren't correctly transmited in the equations ?


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