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"Remainder Theorem"
 
   There is a problem with the validity of the remainder theorem.
The theorem states that if f(x) is divided by x-a, the remainder is f(a), where f is any rational integral function.

But supposeing f(x) = x^2 + x + 5,
f(4) will be 25.
Supposing we divide f(4) with (4 - 3) i.e 1, the remainder should be f(3).
But by actual division (25/1), the remainder is 0, but f(3) is 17.
How is that possible. Surely, there must be something wrong.

T SAIDEEP
T SAIDEEP


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amy
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Jun-01-02, 11:37 PM (EST)
 
1. "RE: Remainder Theorem"
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   The remainder divided by the divisor is added to the quotient, so a remainder of 17 is divided by X-3. When X is no longer part of the equation the remainder is added to the quotient without being divided by a variable, so it can't be distinguished from the quotient.

x^2+x+5/x-3 = x+4R17 = x+4+17/x-3
in long division:
x+ 4 + 17(R)/x-3
x-3 /x^2 +x+ 5
-(x^2-3x)
=4x+ 5
-(4x-12)
=17
with f(x)=4:
4+ 4+17(R)/4-3 = 4+4+17/1 = 4+4+17 = 25
4-3 /16+ 4+ 5
-(16-12)
=16+ 5
-(16-12)
=17

hope this helps


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Bo Jacoby
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Sep-13-02, 08:44 AM (EST)
 
2. "RE: Remainder Theorem"
In response to message #0
 
   >There is a problem with the validity of the remainder
>theorem.
>The theorem states that if f(x) is divided by x-a, the
>remainder is f(a), where f is any rational integral
>function.

We use the letter-convention:
Letter 'x' indicate a Variable.
Letter 'a' indicate a Constant.
Letter 'f' indicate a Function.
So 'f(x)' means the function 'f' , not the number,
while 'f(a)' means the function value in the point 'a'.
'x-a' means a function of 'x', not a number.

This convention is often used but rarely spoken of,
because it cannot easily be avoided even if it'stinks.

So, dividing f(x) by (x-a) means writing:
f(x)=(x-a)g(x) + b .
This is an equality of functions of x .

f(x) is the dividend.
x-a is the divisor.
g(x) is the quotient.
b is the remainder.

Now substitute x=a to get
f(a)=(a-a)g(a)+b = 0*g(a)+b = b

So, the remainder, b, of a function, f(x),
divided by the function (x-a),
equals the function value f(a).

This was the theorem.

>But supposeing f(x) = x^2 + x + 5,
>f(4) will be 25.
>Supposing we divide f(4) with (4 - 3) i.e 1, the remainder
>should be f(3).

No sir, you should divide the function f(x)
with the function x-4 :
f(x) = (x-4)(x+5)+25

Check that (x-4)(x+5)+25 = x^2+x+5 .

The dividend is x^2+x+5.
The divisor is x-4.
The quotient is x+5.
The remainder is 25.

The theorem then gives f(4)=25, which is correct.


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