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sfwc
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May-30-07, 02:55 PM (EST)
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"Signs and sums in a sequence"
 
   A note on https://www.cut-the-knot.org/Curriculum/Algebra/NegPosSum.shtml

If n is not 0 mod 3 we may easily find a sequence for which all sums of 3 successive terms are positive, but the sum of all the terms is negative.

First we take an obvious simplifying condition: The sequence must be periodic of period 3. Say the first 3 terms are a, b and c. We must have a b c > 0, so take a b c = 1.

Suppose now that n = 3k 1. Then we also require a k < 0. So take a = -k -1. Now we just need b c = k 2. So let, for example, b = k, c = 2.

On the other hand, if n = 3k 2, we need a b k < 0. So take a = -k, b = -1, c = k 2 (for example)
The method obviously generalises for similar problems, such as when the sum of every successive set of 4 terms must be positive.

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May-31-07, 09:08 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Signs and sums in a sequence"
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   Yes, the problem is pretty simple, although at first site it may sound quite improbable to an untrained mind.


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