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Cherie (Guest)
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Jan-04-01, 03:59 PM (EST)
 
"Countdown sequence of numbers"
 
   My ten year old son asked for help w/some math homework. It is called countdown-and asks for the final number in the following sequence

4 5 3 5 6 2 4 8

Where do I start?


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Countdown sequence of numbers Cherie (Guest) Jan-04-01 TOP
  RE: Countdown sequence of numbers alexb Jan-04-01 1
     RE: Countdown sequence of numbers Cherie (Guest) Jan-05-01 2
         RE: Countdown sequence of numbers alexb Jan-05-01 3
  RE: Countdown sequence of numbers Joe Urbanski Aug-21-03 4
     RE: Countdown sequence of numbers James Sep-09-03 6
         RE: Countdown sequence of numbers Vladimir Sep-12-03 7
             RE: Countdown sequence of numbers Chris Sep-26-03 8
  RE: Countdown sequence of numbers Mr Toad Aug-22-03 5
     RE: Countdown sequence of numbers Robbie Oct-01-03 9
  RE: Countdown sequence of numbers Hogwish Oct-01-03 10

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alexb
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Jan-04-01, 04:01 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   Well, quite candidly the numbers do not tell me much. But you ask where to start. First of all, I would find out what is the topic that your son works on in class. Can you talk to him? May you look into his textbook?

I can probably offer half a dozen different but reasonable ways to continue the sequence. No doubt the problem poser - the teacher or the book - had something very definite in mind. Thus I would establish a background for the question.


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Cherie (Guest)
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Jan-05-01, 11:13 PM (EST)
 
2. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   Thank you for your prompt response. My son is doing decimals and fractions in math, but was given this problem as a "math teaser". There is no other information available, just the instructions to determine what the final number in the sequence would be. Since it is called "Countdown"-I was hoping that would be a clue, but I dont see a pattern and I am not sure what type of formula we need to find one. Thank you again.


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alexb
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Jan-05-01, 11:16 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   "Countdown" does not ring a bell. Sorry. When you find out please let me know what is it about.

Thank you,
Alexander Bogomolny


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Joe Urbanski
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Aug-21-03, 10:24 PM (EST)
 
4. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   >My ten year old son asked for help w/some math homework. It
>is called countdown-and asks for the final number in the
>following sequence
>
> 4 5 3 5 6 2 4 8
>
>Where do I start?

I have seen this problem and the actual wording is very important to the solution. The actual wording is:

What would the final number of this sequence be?

4 5 3 5 6 2 4 8

The answer is 2, the number of letters in the word 'be.'


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James
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Sep-09-03, 06:36 AM (EST)
 
6. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   Wow.. nothing against the parent or anyone here, but the teacher is retarded!! I can't stand questions like these classified as math questions. It's more of a brain or teaser or a waste-of-time question. This is why we end up with such a high illiteracy in math in this world.


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Vladimir
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Sep-12-03, 11:46 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   I would not be so sure. You can look at the given problem as a subtle problem of pattern recognition. Pattern recognition is still one ability in which the human brain is incomparably faster and vastly more reliable than any computer program. Most questions in IQ tests seem to be related to pattern recognition. Even the fact of understanding seems to be related to pattern recognition.

I certainly tried to see a pattern and I failed. There is no guarantee that I would see it given the exact wording. Given the solution, I enjoyed it.

Regards, Vladimir


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Chris
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Sep-26-03, 10:16 AM (EST)
 
8. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   Curiously, I came up with 2, but only because the sums are increasing for every three numbers (the first three add up to 12, then 13, and simply add 2 to 8 and 4 to get 14). Sort of an inverse of countdown, but that's how it goes, I suppose.

Chris


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Mr Toad
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Aug-22-03, 06:00 PM (EST)
 
5. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   Isn't the final number 8?


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Robbie
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Oct-01-03, 06:27 PM (EST)
 
9. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   You're right it's not really a math question at all.

I was useless at math at school. Half the time I wasn't paying attention and the other two thirds of the time I wasn't there at all!


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Hogwish
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Oct-01-03, 07:43 PM (EST)
 
10. "RE: Countdown sequence of numbers"
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   >My ten year old son asked for help w/some math homework. It
>is called countdown-and asks for the final number in the
>following sequence
>
> 4 5 3 5 6 2 4 8
>
>Where do I start?
Start by using the clue in the title "countdown" ( as in ..3..2..? ) Where do you see this. Look at every third digit.The first two digits in each set of three don't mean anything.(xx3,xx2,481. TAA DAA!!!!! answer:1


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