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 | Sep-04-08, 06:57 AM (EST) |  |  |  | "difficult mathematics induction proofing" 
 
 
      |  | hai, i just knew this web yesterday, while searching some clue to finish my discrete mathematics homework,, and i really need help..please..cause it have 2 b done by saturday..
 theres 2 question and each of it was equipped with a hint,,here we go --------------------------------------------------------------------1. Show that it is possible to arrange the numbers 1,2,3,...,n in a row so that the average of any two of these numbers never appears between them..
 --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. a guest at a party is a celebrity if this person known by every other guest,and knows none of them.there is at most 1 celebrity at party,for if there were 2,they would know each other.a particular party may have NO celebrity..
 the assignment is :
 find the celebrity,if one exist,by asking ONE TYPE QUESTION-asking a guest whether they know the second guest(it could be any1 at the party)
 use mathematical induction to show that if there are x people at the party,then we can find the celebrity with 3(x-1) questions
 --------------------------------------------------------------------- if the hint make it more complicated please just ignore it..cause i just need the answer,and it isn't have to be the same way as the hint..
 
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         | alexb Charter Member
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 | Sep-05-08, 09:09 AM (EST) |  |        |  | 1.  "RE: difficult mathematics induction proofing" In response to message #0
 
 
 
      |  | >and i really need help..please.. >cause it have 2 b done by saturday..
 It's a pity you mentioned this. I would have answered earlier. Now had to wait a little. >1. Show that it is possible to arrange the numbers >1,2,3,...,n in a row so that the average of any two of these
 >numbers never appears between them..
 For n = 4, 2143 does the job. Similarly, 6587 works for 5678. You should probably think of a recursive procedure that shuffles such two together. >2. a guest at a party is a celebrity if this person known by >every other guest,and knows none of them.
 >there is at most 1 celebrity at party,for if there were
 >2,they would know each other.a particular party may have NO
 >celebrity..
 >the assignment is :
 >                    find the celebrity,if one exist,by
 >asking ONE TYPE QUESTION-asking a guest whether they know
 >the second guest(it could be any1 at the party)
 >use mathematical induction to show that if there are x
 >people at the party,then we can find the celebrity with
 >3(x-1) questions
 I wonder. Every such question removes one candidate for the celebrity status leaving 1 fewer persons to check. Why does it take 3(x-1) steps to get from x to 1? |  
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            | Pierre Charland Member since Dec-22-05
 
 | Sep-05-08, 09:18 PM (EST) |  |        |  | 2.  "RE: difficult mathematics induction proofing" In response to message #1
 
 
 
      |  | 1. Show it is possible to arrange 1,2,3,...,n in a row so that the average of any two of these numbers never appears between them.
 Your n=4 example shows the way. 2143 6587
 If n=2^0 or 2^1, it is trivially true. If true for n=2^m, with sequence a(1), a(2), .., a(2^m+1).
 Then true for n=2^(m+1),
 with sequence 2a(1)-1, 2a(2)-1, .., 2a(2^m+1)-1, 2a(1), 2a(2), .., 2a(2^m+1).
 If true for n=4, with sequence 1, 3, 2, 4.
 Then true for n=8,
 with sequence 1, 5, 3, 7, 2, 6, 4, 8.
 so 1,2 to 1,3,2,4
 to 1,5,3,7,2,6,4,8
 to 1,9,5,13,3,11,7,15,2,10,6,14,4,12,8,16
 to ...
 is one sequence possible (not the only one).
 
 AlphaChapMtl
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